I'd like to ask another question about moving overseas

"No, I don't thank you for the fish at all" (notindetroit)
03/07/2016 at 13:13 • Filed to: None

If I just bought a one-way plane ticket to, say, the Netherlands, what will happen? Would I face deportation? Rather than applying and waiting for a job sponsor I think I’d rather just get there and see what’s available right there.

UPDATE: Yeah, seems like a bad idea. Obviously trying to more or less literally run away from my problems isn’t going to work: it looks like I just better swallow my pride and just apply for unemployment benefits/welfare and move into government-assisted housing if it gets that bad.

DISCUSSION (18)

yamahog > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:19

A friend of mine was recently deported from England (one way ticket from NY) despite having plans for lodging in Ireland and local references. Would not recommend.

CB > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:20

You would get deported.

Rico > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:22

You won’t know until you try!

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:22

Without getting any kind of visa you will be just put on a plane back I guess.

Edit: so I see you Americans don’t need a visa for the Netherlands, however I do think you will be sent back, since you can’t prove you will leave within 90 days.

Tekamul > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:23

I don’t know about The Netherlands, but other no visa countries I’ve entered need to see a return ticket before you get through customs.

No return ticket, no entry.

jariten1781 > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:29

Depends on the country, but one way tickets are pretty frowned upon everywhere without a visa. Once you get deported expect to be banned from entry for 5-10 years. Best bet is to get into a school there first. It's the easiest way for a long stay.

luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln! > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:31

One of the terms I found was “semi-resident tourist”. Sounds like what you would be.

If you do get a job, you will still be regarded as a tax slave by the U.S. federal gov’t. If your tax burden in the new country is less than what you would have paid in the U.S. then the IRS says you have to pay the difference to them. Crazy huh?

Or, you could renounce your citizenship for $2,350.

Here is some interesting reading:

https://www.expatexplorer.hsbc.com/

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/work/…

http://www.expatyourself.com/how-to-become-…

http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/5-tip…

DasWauto > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:36

You don’t need a visa to visit but if customs gets any inkling this is intended to be a one way trip you’ll be sent back where you came from, as you damn well should be. If you’re going to go for any reason another than tourism, get your shit in order before you ever board a plane.

Sam > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 13:48

The types of jobs that sponsor visas are not the type where you just apply at the counter. You'd have to be getting a corporate or engineering job. And even then, you'd have to hope that a Dutch person doesn't apply, because they get first dibs.

jariten1781 > jariten1781
03/07/2016 at 13:53

Oh, and if Holland is part of the EU wide overstay thing you'd be barred entry from like 80% of Europe during the duration of the ban.

For Sweden > CB
03/07/2016 at 14:12

Free flight back!

Klaus Schmoll > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 14:19

As an American you are welcome to visit for 3 months or so, JUST NOT WORK. Entering the country with the intend of working there and staying there would be entering the country illegaly.

Also, where did you bury ‘em all?

Rico > For Sweden
03/07/2016 at 14:29

Is it really free? Can I specify a date I can be deported back so that I don’t miss work? That would be an awesome lifehack for traveling to to other countries on the cheap.

For Sweden > Rico
03/07/2016 at 14:37

I dunno

Klaus Schmoll > Rico
03/07/2016 at 14:46

Pretty sure they’ll charge you, and I don’t think you’ll get the miles.

BigBlock440 > jariten1781
03/07/2016 at 15:26

Those progressive Europeans...

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > No, I don't thank you for the fish at all
03/07/2016 at 17:20

Well, likely you would be turned back at passport control. Generally you have to be able to demonstrate that you have a way home, and enough money to support yourself while you are there.

Going somewhere without a return ticket is just asking for red flags and klaxons to go off at immigration. Heck, the one time I didn’t print my return ticket itinerary and I was only flying to Ottawa... (They had to call the United/Air Canada reservations desk and get them to confirm that I had a return ticket, and that also meant a free trip to secondary inspection...)

Just don’t do it.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer
03/07/2016 at 17:30

Yes. He would likely be sent back because there is no onward travel within 90 days.

Also, if you show up and don’t have stuff that is in line with your purpose of travel, they are going to be suspicious, and that’s a good way to get secondary questioning.